tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post7462551907100364126..comments2024-03-18T17:28:44.693-07:00Comments on Rondam Ramblings: Pearl Harbor truthers rejoiceRonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-49104764882976056892009-10-25T19:40:06.829-07:002009-10-25T19:40:06.829-07:00Well, you're kind of arguing my points about s...Well, you're kind of arguing my points about secrecy. People often say, about a 9/11 false flag scenario, or Pearl Harbor pre-warnings, that "Nobody could keep secrets for that long, especially involving that many people." It's kind of a folk wisdom about how secrets work. It's never been critically examined. <br /><br />But here were are, having an operatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927814241268465006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-64298954759390762232009-10-19T22:45:39.428-07:002009-10-19T22:45:39.428-07:00> the stealth fighter was kept secret from the ...> the stealth fighter was kept secret from the general public for at least 10 years<br /><br />There's a big difference between the Stealth and Pearl Harbor. In the case of the Stealth, it's a pretty good bet that everyone who worked on the project believed in the importance of the work and the importance of keeping the secret. In the case of Pearl Harbor, we're talking about Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-11133426336238953022009-10-19T14:38:00.320-07:002009-10-19T14:38:00.320-07:00"As to why it's hard to keep, well, isn&#..."As to why it's hard to keep, well, isn't that obvious? A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. *All* of the people who are privy to the secret have to keep it, and all of the documents and physical evidence have to be kept secret as well."<br /><br />This is what I'm talking about when I say we don't really have an science about the sociology of secrecy, just oldoperatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927814241268465006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-39342646302840336842009-10-10T08:35:38.239-07:002009-10-10T08:35:38.239-07:00> A chain is only as strong as its weakest link...> A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. *All* of the people who are privy to the secret have to keep it, <br /><br />This is clearly false in a hierarchical system. If Bob the radio operator said that he heard radio chatter, we would not believe him without evidence or the support of his supervising officer. There are many reasons that we might distrust Bob.<br /><br />> and all ynnivhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08240692067085029643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-8436671416364711972009-10-05T22:27:34.412-07:002009-10-05T22:27:34.412-07:00First, a blanket disclaimer: this title of this po...First, a blanket disclaimer: this title of this post was intended to be slightly tongue-in-cheek since there is not (at least AFAIK) actually a Pearl Harbor Truthers movement.<br /><br />With that in mind:<br /><br />> I'm always curious what the secret is and why it's so hard to keep.<br /><br />There are several secrets here:<br /><br />1. The Japanese did not keep radio silence Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-8913286419686528122009-10-05T19:49:47.899-07:002009-10-05T19:49:47.899-07:00"I had been of the opinion that there is no w..."I had been of the opinion that there is no way that that a secret of such magnitude could be successfully kept, and so the 9/11 truthers are almost certainly wrong (actually, I would have phrased that in more categorical terms before today) but this lecture has be rethinking that position."<br /><br />I'm always curious what the secret is and why it's so hard to keep. Smart operatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927814241268465006noreply@blogger.com