tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post6053713869112878517..comments2024-03-18T17:28:44.693-07:00Comments on Rondam Ramblings: This is disturbingRonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-3618841424404530192010-01-26T22:58:55.522-08:002010-01-26T22:58:55.522-08:00> If a steel-frame building is mostly empty sp...> If a steel-frame building is mostly empty space and can just "fold up like an accordian", why doesn't that happen more often?<br /><br />Because this experiment isn't performed very often. Steel-frame buildings are not often subject to the kinds of stresses that cause the steel to lose its structural integrity.<br /><br />> So what you're saying is that a Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-14023795129297168022010-01-26T19:46:16.254-08:002010-01-26T19:46:16.254-08:00I guess what seems counter-intuitive to me is the ...I guess what seems counter-intuitive to me is the rapid 'phase transition' (I realize I may not be using that term correctly) from a standing building to a pile of rubble. If a steel-frame building is mostly empty space and can just "fold up like an accordian", why doesn't that happen more often? <br /><br />So what you're saying is that a steel-frame building is just operatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927814241268465006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-49942684532959378372010-01-25T23:06:58.923-08:002010-01-25T23:06:58.923-08:00> So how does a building collapse in freefall? ...> So how does a building collapse in freefall? Doesn't *everything* below it have to be out of the way in order not to impede freefall speed?<br /><br />No. All that is necessary is that the structural integrity of the lowest supports be able to provide negligible upward force relative to the weight of the building above. If the beams have buckled, that is quite plausible, especially in Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-71584550750067654362010-01-25T21:52:05.948-08:002010-01-25T21:52:05.948-08:00Are you referring to the section entitled, "W...Are you referring to the section entitled, "WTC 7 Collapse" with the subheading "Claim: Seven hours after the two towers fell, the 47-story WTC 7 collapsed. According to 911review.org: "The video clearly shows that it was not a collapse subsequent to a fire, but rather a controlled demolition: amongst the Internet investigators, the jury is in on this one."? It referencesoperatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927814241268465006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-29464657609193689982010-01-22T21:44:42.974-08:002010-01-22T21:44:42.974-08:00I don't doubt that WTC7 collapsed at free fall...I don't doubt that WTC7 collapsed at free fall speed, but that doesn't prove controlled demolition. See for example:<br /><br />http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=5<br /><br />Also, the explosives from controlled demolitions make very distinctive and impossible-to-miss noise:<br /><br />http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/Controlled_demolition<br /Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-18086511657806484762010-01-22T19:59:54.909-08:002010-01-22T19:59:54.909-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.operatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927814241268465006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-39881512042569884222010-01-22T19:54:42.173-08:002010-01-22T19:54:42.173-08:00Can you tell me your specific criticism of the tim...Can you tell me your specific criticism of the timing analysis of WTC7's collapse -- the one that supposedly shows that WTC7 fell at free-fall speeds for nearly 2 seconds? I'm referring to the one done by David Chandler. Here's the original video analysis he posted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POUSJm--tgw<br /><br />I don't have a physics or science background, so I don't operatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927814241268465006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-20168841925223746592010-01-16T15:33:41.853-08:002010-01-16T15:33:41.853-08:00> What is your opinion about the collapse of WT...> What is your opinion about the collapse of WTC7?<br /><br />I answered that in an earlier comment.<br /><br />> Have you seen video of the Madrid Tower or Mandarin Oriental Hotel burning?<br /><br />Yes. Why do you think that's relevant?Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-49563545896131509572010-01-16T12:24:40.580-08:002010-01-16T12:24:40.580-08:00What is your opinion about the collapse of WTC7? H...What is your opinion about the collapse of WTC7? Have you seen video of the Madrid Tower or Mandarin Oriental Hotel burning?operatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13927814241268465006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-22763765972101031692009-12-29T19:59:32.174-08:002009-12-29T19:59:32.174-08:00Considered subscribing to your blog, until I saw y...Considered subscribing to your blog, until I saw you posting about 9/11 coverup conspiracy theories.<br /><br />Then I decided to subscribe to your blog. I don't hold degrees in physics, engineering, mathematics or architecture but I've seen and heard enough from different experts in the last decade to make me think that SOMETHING was covered up on 9/11. <br /><br />Guantanamo and sundry Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-30911849379204061202009-12-28T21:10:26.517-08:002009-12-28T21:10:26.517-08:00Linked here from HN.
Considered subscribing to yo...Linked here from HN.<br /><br />Considered subscribing to your blog, until I saw you posting about 9/11 coverup conspiracy theories.<br /><br />Plus, the voting things at the end of every post are annoying.bbothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16749016348338381812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-31867585748498373232009-12-23T07:34:07.137-08:002009-12-23T07:34:07.137-08:00Ron, I've been a lurker for a long time, but t...Ron, I've been a lurker for a long time, but thought I'd finally throw my two cents in. I've had a similar conflict on this issue. I'm an unabashed skeptic and cynic, and find the truther theories ridiculous. That said, It seems whenever this debate comes up, you have to be on one extreme end or the other; the government is either completely clean or completely dirty. I think JAVAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17770502933679431436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-54342497795217427462009-12-22T03:56:23.621-08:002009-12-22T03:56:23.621-08:00Finding your blog incredibly interesting... keep p...Finding your blog incredibly interesting... keep posting!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17149613617237467852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-23343900028992701552009-12-21T22:13:34.356-08:002009-12-21T22:13:34.356-08:00> You originally said he said "the officia...> You originally said he said "the official story about the cell phone calls from the flights hijacked on 9/11/01 couldn't possibly be true."<br /><br />I probably should have said, "The ORIGINAL official story (which everyone still believes) isn't true, and could not possibly have been true." Or something like that.<br /><br />> And now you've gone to Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-18764968671207350762009-12-21T21:06:47.285-08:002009-12-21T21:06:47.285-08:00Wait, what?
You originally said he said "the...Wait, what?<br /><br />You originally said he said "the official story about the cell phone calls from the flights hijacked on 9/11/01 couldn't possibly be true." - which okay, there may have been some calls, if only looking at this statement.<br /><br />But then you say:<br /><br />"According to Griffin, the *official* story has quietly changed: the FBI now says that there Mileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04199527461309714703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-83518741472349571292009-12-21T21:00:32.255-08:002009-12-21T21:00:32.255-08:00> There are recordings of some of the phone cal...> There are recordings of some of the phone calls made on those flights.<br /><br />Yes. That misses the point.<br /><br />There is no dispute that calls were made. There are at least two ways that calls could have been (and were) made: from cell phones at low altitudes (below 5000 feet or so) and from seat-back airphones.<br /><br />Griffin's claim is very specific: that Barbara Olson&#Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-70256149461174128792009-12-21T19:46:11.042-08:002009-12-21T19:46:11.042-08:00There are recordings of some of the phone calls ma...There are recordings of some of the phone calls made on those flights.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93#Hijacking<br /><br />No doubt some of the information is faulty, but if the "no phone call" thing is to be believed, a LOT of people are lying about receiving phone calls, and in fact they've gone to the trouble of fabricating phone calls... but toMileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04199527461309714703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-19342828991381651672009-12-21T19:37:05.832-08:002009-12-21T19:37:05.832-08:00> Didn't people make calls with the sky pho...> Didn't people make calls with the sky phones?<br /><br />If Griffin is to be believed, there weren't any on flight 93.Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-42970750863073166452009-12-21T19:20:11.567-08:002009-12-21T19:20:11.567-08:00From Wikipedia:
"Two people on American Airl...From Wikipedia:<br /><br />"Two people on American Airlines Flight 77 made phone calls to contacts on the ground. At 09:12, flight attendant Renee May called her mother, Nancy May, in Las Vegas.[21] During the call, which lasted nearly two minutes, May said her flight was being hijacked by six individuals and they had been moved to the rear of the plane.[17][21] May also asked her mother to Mileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04199527461309714703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-88644204337646855632009-12-21T19:16:47.240-08:002009-12-21T19:16:47.240-08:00Didn't people make calls with the sky phones? ...Didn't people make calls with the sky phones? And aren't there records of people who received the calls? <br /><br />You only source the guy as saying the FBI has changed its story, have you got any further evidence?Mileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04199527461309714703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-1455727840188438862009-12-21T17:14:10.738-08:002009-12-21T17:14:10.738-08:00Calls are being successfully made. But not from 3...Calls are being successfully made. But not from 35,000 feet.Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-46380063842656877192009-12-21T13:24:56.255-08:002009-12-21T13:24:56.255-08:00RF technology is way outside of my field, however ...RF technology is way outside of my field, however an <a href="http://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/aviation/unsafe-at-any-airspeed/0" rel="nofollow">article in IEEE Spectrum</a> seems to believe that calls are being successfully made.John Douganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17697319138259306921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-556834806417604562009-12-21T11:56:44.587-08:002009-12-21T11:56:44.587-08:00> Why do you think the intentional bringing dow...> Why do you think the intentional bringing down of the towers doesn't pass the laugh test?<br /><br />Because destroying a building is very hard to do and even harder to conceal. Who would undertake it? To what end? With what resources? In light of subsequent events, why would not a single person who participated have come forward?<br /><br />> Have you seen the amateur videos of Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-83525293325792102452009-12-21T11:20:30.737-08:002009-12-21T11:20:30.737-08:00Why do you think the intentional bringing down of ...Why do you think the intentional bringing down of the towers doesn't pass the laugh test?<br /><br />Have you seen the amateur videos of the towers collapsing *from the bottom*? Hard to create from scratch.<br /><br />Have you seen the web sites of professional engineers who've put their names on the line to question the whole story of how the towers came down?<br /><br />I think the Chris Rylandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15865345205062420863noreply@blogger.com