tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post5808547549065024095..comments2024-03-18T17:28:44.693-07:00Comments on Rondam Ramblings: Why you should care about what a YEC thinksRonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-21499977427985045712019-04-07T17:07:42.316-07:002019-04-07T17:07:42.316-07:00@weregoat: Ironically, I'm on your side here (...@weregoat: Ironically, I'm on your side here (as you've noticed and mentioned several times). But just to push you one more time here: we all (besides Jimmy, perhaps) agree that you're unlikely to learn anything interesting about the direct subject matter, whether it be YEC, flat earth, UFOs, or astrology.<br /><br />But the intent of the exercise is to learn how intelligent, Don Geddishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04214642122689048677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-89532642579753743082019-04-07T16:13:46.416-07:002019-04-07T16:13:46.416-07:00@Don:
[The goat misses the point]
> The point i...@Don:<br />[The goat misses the point]<br />> The point is, indeed, to be “interested in how beliefs are formed and held against > against facts and objections”. To which your sole comment seems to be “there is <br />> plenty of literature on that”. Perhaps you can expand on this, since that is <br />> really the entire point of the whole exercise?<br /><br />Yes and no. I missed the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-72944121495235529852019-04-07T15:19:17.502-07:002019-04-07T15:19:17.502-07:00@Ron:
>> You are wrong that YECs don't ...@Ron:<br /><br />>> You are wrong that YECs don't exist outside the USA. <br />>> We do have YECs in Sweden, for example;<br />> OK, well, you're the one who told me that "some of the things ... are just the <br />> construct of ... USA culture [and] YEC ... is one of those."<br /><br />Yes. As I said, YECs here exists, but they don't have the relevance Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-55119280448852534032019-04-07T12:19:51.989-07:002019-04-07T12:19:51.989-07:00@Don:
Sorry to single you out, and doubly sorry i...@Don:<br /><br />Sorry to single you out, and doubly sorry if I'm coming across as pejorative. That's not my intent.<br /><br />> “Tribalism” is my answer.<br /><br />Fair enough. We've been corresponding privately about this, and I am planning on addressing it, but it's going to take a while because, as you know, there's a LOT of back-story there.<br /><br />> You Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-11530266163759698722019-04-07T11:00:35.617-07:002019-04-07T11:00:35.617-07:00@weregoat: I feel like you missed Ron’s point. He...@weregoat: I feel like you missed Ron’s point. He’s been very clear from the beginning that the scientific evidence for a very old earth is overwhelming. Ron clearly has no expectation that he will learn anything about the actual age of the earth from this YEC conversation. So your analogy about the flat earth is beside the point: Ron isn’t trying to acquire new knowledge about “the shape of Don Geddishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04214642122689048677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-45145120252407241552019-04-07T08:35:05.267-07:002019-04-07T08:35:05.267-07:00@weregoat:
(That's an interesting handle, BTW...@weregoat:<br /><br />(That's an interesting handle, BTW).<br /><br />> You are wrong that YECs don't exist outside the USA. We do have YECs in Sweden, for example;<br /><br />OK, well, you're the one who told me that "some of the things ... are just the construct of ... USA culture [and] YEC ... is one of those."<br /><br />And please note that the point here is not to *Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-7856624005097709452019-04-07T04:32:24.202-07:002019-04-07T04:32:24.202-07:00I go back to YEC to make another point, now.
You ...I go back to YEC to make another point, now.<br /><br />You are wrong that YECs don't exist outside the USA. We do have YECs in Sweden, for example; it's just that they are basically harmless (like flat Earthers). They don't have any influence on politicians, or the cultural discourse; as far as I know there is no danger of evolution or geology being scrapped from the school curriculaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-18293799260873282522019-04-07T04:31:53.404-07:002019-04-07T04:31:53.404-07:00I am afraid that I wasn't very clear in my com...I am afraid that I wasn't very clear in my comment (the quote posted is mine).<br /><br />Let me try to answer your post, at length and clarify what I tried to communicate.<br /><br />It's not really about not discussing things in general. But there are things that have a sense to discuss, and things that at this point, for me at least, are not, and have been settled (often a long time Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com