tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post3281514181230977519..comments2024-03-18T17:28:44.693-07:00Comments on Rondam Ramblings: All together now: the second amendment must be repealedRonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-58521367612061132132024-01-29T12:27:14.158-08:002024-01-29T12:27:14.158-08:00> You know what's weird? You don't use ...> You know what's weird? You don't use hyperbole when discussing religion.<br /><br />Why is that weird?<br /><br />BTW, the only one I see employing hyperbole here is you, by talking about people wanting to "ban guns". No one is calling for banning guns (at least not all of them), certainly not me.<br /><br />> You are right; there is a broad consensus about individuals Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-34687883852349105282024-01-28T22:13:01.208-08:002024-01-28T22:13:01.208-08:00You know what's weird? You don't use hyper...You know what's weird? You don't use hyperbole when discussing religion. <br /><br />You are right; there is a broad consensus about individuals owning WMD. In part because deploying a bazooka in self-defense is a tad impractical. Same for chemical weapons, tanks, and the like. <br /><br />That's because they don't make holsters for easily carrying bazookas. Oddly enough, I carry ejdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15190602228388892520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-21201257490114445912024-01-28T18:22:51.785-08:002024-01-28T18:22:51.785-08:00@ejd:
> the whole gun debate is often akin to ...@ejd:<br /><br />> the whole gun debate is often akin to the religious debate. <br /><br />Yes, exactly, and that is in no small measure because the 2nd amendment is written like scripture rather than law.<br /><br />> As for the First Amendment, really?<br /><br />I've really never heard of anyone who advocated repealing it, no.<br /><br />The 1st A has problems too, but it's far Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-1161731940009033752024-01-28T16:17:46.596-08:002024-01-28T16:17:46.596-08:00It's awkward because I don't typically sub...It's awkward because I don't typically subscribe to places where I might get into long, fruitless discussions. <br /><br />Mind you, I love discussions, but the whole gun debate is often akin to the religious debate. <br /><br />As for the First Amendment, really? You've not met people who claim it's been misinterpreted (separation of church and state), or shouldn't apply to ejdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15190602228388892520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-48683689304185860012024-01-28T13:58:14.138-08:002024-01-28T13:58:14.138-08:00@ejd:
> Always awkward when I subscribe to a b...@ejd:<br /><br />> Always awkward when I subscribe to a blog because of some content and then encounter other content I disagree with.<br /><br />Why is that awkward? I've never met another human being with whom I agreed on everything. In fact, I've been known to change my mind about things, so sometimes I don't even agree with myself :-)<br /><br />This idea that there is Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-133572046828644662024-01-28T12:39:13.518-08:002024-01-28T12:39:13.518-08:00Always awkward when I subscribe to a blog because ...Always awkward when I subscribe to a blog because of some content and then encounter other content I disagree with. <br /><br />Another time, I might even engage in a hopefully fruitful discussion, but this seems a bit like trying to 'discuss' religion with a true believer. <br /><br />Just curious; what do you say to people who feel the same way about the First Amendment? <br /><br />ejdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15190602228388892520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-81456039151994252922023-04-25T03:58:41.615-07:002023-04-25T03:58:41.615-07:00Understood about the window thing, no objection on...Understood about the window thing, no objection on that from me.<br /><br />I did think the "the people" had a different implication in other places, I'm not that familiar with the exact text of the US constitution, so I concede on "obvious" even if it was intentionally a flip characterization.<br /><br />cobyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04042136876169040477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-30855805939747701942023-04-24T08:44:09.608-07:002023-04-24T08:44:09.608-07:00Oh, forgot to add: if the intent of the 2nd amendm...Oh, forgot to add: if the intent of the 2nd amendment were obvious we would not be having this conversation. It might be obvious to *you* that the intent was not to guarantee an individual right to bear arms, but it is not obvious to supporters of the 2nd amendment, and, more saliently, it is not obvious to a majority of the current members of the supreme court.<br /><br />In fact, it is not Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-34950243569049618052023-04-24T08:33:06.418-07:002023-04-24T08:33:06.418-07:00@Coby: I don't disagree, but the reason for ch...@Coby: I don't disagree, but the reason for chanting Repeal is not because repeal is a politically viable outcome, it is because "Repeal the Second Amendment" is a snappier slogan than "get a sane SCOTUS interpretation of the second amendment that reflects its obvious intent". The former is only four words. It fits on a bumper sticker. The shortened version is only two Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-69585465523694777232023-04-24T06:04:49.579-07:002023-04-24T06:04:49.579-07:00I don't disagree, but there is a much more pol...I don't disagree, but there is a much more politically plausible and probably just as effective halfway-there solution: just get a sane SCOTUS interpretation of the second amendment that reflects its obvious intent. It is a right for states to have their own armed militias, not an individual's right to possess military grade weapons.cobyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04042136876169040477noreply@blogger.com