tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post4437390213413257152..comments2024-03-18T17:28:44.693-07:00Comments on Rondam Ramblings: Remember this dayRonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-52570030419013920132018-07-17T21:34:58.858-07:002018-07-17T21:34:58.858-07:00@Ron:
you don't get the benefit of the presump...@Ron:<br /><i>you don't get the benefit of the presumption of innocence if you are in a country without an extradition treaty and refuse to stand trial.</i><br /><br />That still doesn't make an indictment the same as a conviction. A US court can try them in absentia and render a verdict based on the evidence presented. Until that happens, they aren't guilty according to the rule of Peter Donishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09122769947782402203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-54722455469702348062018-07-17T14:30:27.162-07:002018-07-17T14:30:27.162-07:00> an indictment is not a "fact", it&#...> an indictment is not a "fact", it's an allegation.<br /><br />It's an allegation made by a grand jury on a finding of probable cause. And you don't get the benefit of the presumption of innocence if you are in a country without an extradition treaty and refuse to stand trial. Furthermore, the *individuals* cited in the indictment are entitled to a presumption of Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11752242624438232184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5592542.post-86290469797710673272018-07-17T14:09:50.500-07:002018-07-17T14:09:50.500-07:00@Ron:
Just to clarify: an indictment is not a &qu...@Ron:<br /><br />Just to clarify: an indictment is not a "fact", it's an allegation. The allegations certainly look like they will hold up when they are actually tried in court, but until a court actually says "guilty", they're not facts. If we're going to criticize Trump for not upholding the rule of law, it behooves us to make sure we ourselves do uphold it.<br />Peter Donishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09122769947782402203noreply@blogger.com